The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.
Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.
But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.
The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?
Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.
For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.
With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.
Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.
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  1. xnreyescj
    xnreyescj
    2 uur geleden

    Thank you Mercedes-Benz for lobbying ($$$) U.S. congress in '88 and passing the Vehicle Safety Compliance Act.

  2. Ghoosh Wen
    Ghoosh Wen
    3 uur geleden

    I love boxy car design

  3. Andy Hills
    Andy Hills
    4 uur geleden

    Two words Vauxhalls lotus carlton.

  4. Terence Cheng
    Terence Cheng
    5 uur geleden

    Perfect in the making, also for your mechanic

  5. Cesar Abraham
    Cesar Abraham
    6 uur geleden

    My Dad had the 300E 1986, He bought it brand new , This car is indeed the perfect 4 door sedan, built like a tank, straight 6 engine, german engineering at it's finest, very comfortable ride, My dad donated the car in 2015 with 267K miles . Lots of memories

  6. dbernstein85
    dbernstein85
    7 uur geleden

    Haha silly video everyone knows the e38 was the greatest sedan

  7. Tony Curtis Blondell
    Tony Curtis Blondell
    7 uur geleden

    Best car video, lol

  8. Simon F
    Simon F
    7 uur geleden

    Cute dressing gown.

  9. Mohammad Al Fattal
    Mohammad Al Fattal
    8 uur geleden

    Mercedes was the best by miles and miles ahead of anyone Now you can argue about it being still the best, but barely

  10. Gene Smith
    Gene Smith
    8 uur geleden

    GO to the source- Buy a PORSCHE.

  11. Siddhesh Mhatre
    Siddhesh Mhatre
    8 uur geleden

    Great film. 400E and 500E are still gorgeous even today.

  12. NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ
    NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ
    8 uur geleden

    Very good video

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    no taboos
    9 uur geleden

    No airbags. Instantly obsolete.

  14. LoneWolfSigma
    LoneWolfSigma
    9 uur geleden

    Mercedes today..Bring your wallet for repairs. Lexus reliability is far superior than Mercedes. If you love having your wallet raped. to FIT IN with the 1%....buy Mercedes and BMWs....and that is just for them to scan your vehicle with their special scan tools.

  15. Pistonburner
    Pistonburner
    10 uur geleden

    Perfect? That old automatic transmission alone makes it totally impossible.

  16. Sgt. Tom
    Sgt. Tom
    11 uur geleden

    It came up on the right side as proposition. Man ow man, it was so good that i just clicked full screen mode, sat back and watched to the last second. It reminded me of good old times of holy trinity, the top gear. Hats off.

  17. marshalllucky
    marshalllucky
    12 uur geleden

    what if you got a popped tire? what then?

  18. AeRoTR
    AeRoTR
    13 uur geleden

    I could not stop watching, very good job !

  19. josava1
    josava1
    13 uur geleden

    It’s Right up there with the GOAT - Lexus Ls400

  20. Tim Tv Please
    Tim Tv Please
    14 uur geleden

    Very enjoyable video. Glad it came out of no where to Me. Feeling confident sitting in my Sprinter!

  21. Parvez A K Khan
    Parvez A K Khan
    14 uur geleden

    My all time favourite W123 and W124

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    bozukbeyin
    16 uur geleden

    This is great content man! Thank you.

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    Michael Davidson
    17 uur geleden

    Can the mexican presenting the video wear normal clothes and quit the classical music

  24. Math is not for the faint of heart
    Math is not for the faint of heart
    18 uur geleden

    And then Lexus came with the LS400. Boy, were they upset at MB, Audi and BMW. But I do admit that the Kathedral (W140) demands respect

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  29. Mark Lydon
    Mark Lydon
    Dag geleden

    An Italian obsessed with safety????? That must have been a one off.

  30. sexphisto
    sexphisto
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    nope.

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    gRosh08
    Dag geleden

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  32. Khanya Luthando Ngobo
    Khanya Luthando Ngobo
    Dag geleden

    I don't dispute its a great car, but really Mercedes fan boys.. You have to give credit where it's due, Porsche designed and engineered the engine and portions of the body, only Porsche and Audi has the most Le Mans wins, this engine won the PE Mans because it's a Porsche engineered engine not Mercedes. Between Merc, Audi and BMW.. Audi will forever have the better engines. Though this is an impeccable car but give credit where it's due honesty won't kill

  33. Al Ks Mercedes
    Al Ks Mercedes
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  34. Norse Viking Æsir
    Norse Viking Æsir
    Dag geleden

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    nestoavila
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  36. Norse Viking Æsir
    Norse Viking Æsir
    Dag geleden

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  37. mercedesbenzformula1
    mercedesbenzformula1
    Dag geleden

    One of my favorite cars ever!

  38. Hemo A.H.
    Hemo A.H.
    Dag geleden

    drove the w124 300e for college. Brilliant and still holds up but be prepared for insane bills.

  39. Geri
    Geri
    Dag geleden

    I have a w124 250D and all i can say is the more i try other new cars the more im convinced of what masterpiece they have built.

  40. Wefixanything
    Wefixanything
    Dag geleden

    Next one is BMW e60..

  41. Q
    Q
    Dag geleden

    I had one. Yes the best ever built.

  42. Peter Forte
    Peter Forte
    Dag geleden

    I want!!!

  43. Shrek Wazowski
    Shrek Wazowski
    Dag geleden

    "Porsha"

  44. zoomer46 zoomer46
    zoomer46 zoomer46
    Dag geleden

    to be honest when i drove an 500e w124 i thought it felt a bit slow, later on i got a s210 e55 which felt way faster, 500e an over hyped saloon in my opinion.

  45. JD Mosley
    JD Mosley
    Dag geleden

    You spelled "WRX STi" wrong.

  46. Nick Adams
    Nick Adams
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    The host is such annoying a hole

  47. joesaric1
    joesaric1
    Dag geleden

    But whyyyyyyyy again ??

  48. Surfman
    Surfman
    Dag geleden

    Ls400 is better tho.

  49. PGC
    PGC
    Dag geleden

    I own a showroom 1990 300ce24V: a 3.0 litre six straight engine providing some lovely and smooth 232 HP with catalytic converter: it was around the time when in the US most of the V8 5 litres were giving some 140 HP at their best. Is that correct? All the stuff, accessories and amenities you are enthusiast about in this car, were standard in mine too. No miracle just for your 500E but "standard fitting" for any top of class models of the period.

  50. Antonio Bonvecchio
    Antonio Bonvecchio
    Dag geleden

    datti na calmata che è una merda di auto come le altre

  51. Live Life
    Live Life
    Dag geleden

    It is a MercySadie. Mercy Sadie, the darn thing wont start again. I can still hear father to this day.

  52. Ben Bond
    Ben Bond
    Dag geleden

    And then, as has probably already been mentioned, there was the beastly W124 V12.

  53. Matt Hunter
    Matt Hunter
    Dag geleden

    2003 E46 328i ZLP sport package is best sedan ever

  54. CCOCCARO
    CCOCCARO
    Dag geleden

    Jason...why no love for the W124 M119 4.2L? Those cars didn't have the short gearing so they were capable of being faster, if not quicker. While I don't dare drive my 27 year old '94 E420 like you did the 500, it still delivers the goods. Two wishes: Mercedes-Benz would offer more support for the OBD I cars and a glove box. MBNA spun the barrel reducing the W124 price by $10K in 1993 to chase Lexus wisely. I doubt the accountants would let that kind of currency hedge happen today.

  55. Emerson Galvao
    Emerson Galvao
    Dag geleden

    My grandfather bought this car in Toronto Ontario sent it across the sea and now sits in his house in Portugal. It's a s*** engine it can barely make up a hill he has a diesel

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    Beinjar
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  57. Ty Kit
    Ty Kit
    Dag geleden

    Is this the car for the nurburgring lap in granturismo 4?

  58. 4390100
    4390100
    Dag geleden

    We had a Diesel version and it lasted until 500,000 kilos with no big maintenance bills, never had one here that lasted that long, even the Toyota's here don't get over 350,000 and that last one is usually the longer lasting one.

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    Dag geleden

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      Goerge Jones
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  60. goarif1
    goarif1
    Dag geleden

    Can compete even todays car

  61. Jd White
    Jd White
    Dag geleden

    ❤️ my e-63 I've soul crushed so many two door zipperheads....all while the ac is cranking and my seat message going.😃

  62. 1a
    1a
    Dag geleden

    i want this beauty.

  63. azharudheen S
    azharudheen S
    2 dagen geleden

    Powerful presentation..

  64. The-bro-jason
    The-bro-jason
    2 dagen geleden

    Those rear head rests are so annoying when they retract

  65. quantumphaser
    quantumphaser
    2 dagen geleden

    I had the same engine in my 1990 500SL. Incredible engine.

  66. Rok Baro
    Rok Baro
    2 dagen geleden

    For Albanians MB will always be the king of the road 👌

  67. BonuxCouleur
    BonuxCouleur
    2 dagen geleden

    I almost bought the 560SEC Series 10 years ago but could not afford the insurance (and I suspect the fuel consumption) but what a car it was especially in this coupe version. With the massive black star logo it looked like a beast, sounded like a beast... Bloody insurance scums.

  68. Your Average Passer-By
    Your Average Passer-By
    2 dagen geleden

    This was my grandfather's car. I have good memories of riding shotgun while he drove me around town.

  69. Calisota WGPR
    Calisota WGPR
    2 dagen geleden

    hmmm but what about the BMW 850 CSi?

  70. crazycool1128
    crazycool1128
    2 dagen geleden

    >chunk of plastic over the engine Into the trash it goes

  71. Patrick Smith
    Patrick Smith
    2 dagen geleden

    Dude so glad to see you back on the NLlike

  72. Quivver77
    Quivver77
    2 dagen geleden

    @1:00 - "6.3 Litres of Shut up Hippee!" - This guy has a way with words!

  73. 032HULK
    032HULK
    2 dagen geleden

    Cuz of 500E we love Taxi 1.

  74. DDOT EEL
    DDOT EEL
    2 dagen geleden

    Lexus LS400 > Mercedes 500E

  75. Scotty MSU
    Scotty MSU
    2 dagen geleden

    Nah, my 1988 Honda Accord LXi with pop up head light was my perfect Sedan!

  76. Steel prime King of Dabbleyoo
    Steel prime King of Dabbleyoo
    2 dagen geleden

    Engines, to be fully efficient, should be silent, cold and still in the frame (no vibrations).

  77. Rod Dooley
    Rod Dooley
    2 dagen geleden

    I have 190E collection,all I could afford but have 2 Cosworths,and 3 Sportlines and an LE .Friend had 500E car ,it was too MUCH !!!

  78. Aditya CEO
    Aditya CEO
    2 dagen geleden

    Finest looking car with no cheap electronics!

  79. Infinit01
    Infinit01
    2 dagen geleden

    Still a beautiful MB in 2021

  80. James Copsey
    James Copsey
    2 dagen geleden

    Thanks for the ride.

  81. Original J
    Original J
    2 dagen geleden

    Thanks for helping make my favorite car series, the Lexus LS.

  82. kmcbatch2017 kmc
    kmcbatch2017 kmc
    2 dagen geleden

    nice

  83. Roar Christoffersen
    Roar Christoffersen
    2 dagen geleden

    A Mercedes that looks like a Mercedes form all angles!! Great. Today , you can't tell some Mercedes from a Mazda or Toyota. Today, most car designers are nothing but clones of each other.

  84. Joe M
    Joe M
    2 dagen geleden

    Ls400 is a better machine. Change my mind

  85. Tomas Tylecek
    Tomas Tylecek
    2 dagen geleden

    i owned 93 300E, loved the car

  86. Mr Autospec
    Mr Autospec
    2 dagen geleden

    W126 500 is better!

  87. JVA
    JVA
    2 dagen geleden

    A lot of these w124 went well over 1M km as taxi cars here in europe

  88. machedar
    machedar
    2 dagen geleden

    Also let’s you know how good the Lexus LS400 was !

  89. Kanyanga
    Kanyanga
    2 dagen geleden

    This popped up on my feed. I've just began falling in love with Mercedes Benz S Class Sedans. Lemmie review this ♥️💯👌

  90. GRM
    GRM
    2 dagen geleden

    I don't believe a word this guy said compared to BMW at the time, you either own one or listen to this clown, whose obnoxious character sucks anyways.

  91. Globy Boulga
    Globy Boulga
    2 dagen geleden

    Cooperation. Instead of corporation.

  92. sanjay dhokia
    sanjay dhokia
    2 dagen geleden

    very lively and interesting review, great sense of humor

  93. New Here
    New Here
    2 dagen geleden

    I hate ww2 car Manufaktur mraclades prisoner handmade

  94. Emil Søbølle
    Emil Søbølle
    2 dagen geleden

    Okay, so here’s my nasty comment 😎 The Best Or Nothing ⭐️👌🏻❤️

  95. Josef Christoph Rosel
    Josef Christoph Rosel
    2 dagen geleden

    Calling an E Class A compact is one of the most hilarious things I have heard. But really nice presentation of this glorious car!

  96. Rick Simon
    Rick Simon
    2 dagen geleden

    lol ... "the Lexus was better" ...

    1. Rick Simon
      Rick Simon
      2 dagen geleden

      @dreadsasho I am pretty sure I was making fun of exactly that claim. In reality, the BMWs and Mercedes were still the better cars, but at a price that was outrageous considering the price of the LS400.

    2. dreadsasho
      dreadsasho
      2 dagen geleden

      There was nothing even remotely as good as the LS400 when it got released. It introduced way too many "firsts" in terms of technology, reliability and features. BMW's chief engineer got fired because of the Lexus and Mercedes lost a big chunk of the luxury market share which never recovered back to this day.

  97. Arne Ahlert
    Arne Ahlert
    2 dagen geleden

    Funny that they keep calling it a „compact“.

    1. Stijn 4
      Stijn 4
      2 dagen geleden

      It's compact from the perspective of an american's ass.

  98. PARAMTRX
    PARAMTRX
    2 dagen geleden

    In the last eight years I've given a dozen boosts to people with my 94 E420, it's always fun to see how they react when I back up to them

    1. PARAMTRX
      PARAMTRX
      Dag geleden

      @CCOCCARO it's black pearl with black leather

    2. CCOCCARO
      CCOCCARO
      Dag geleden

      Drive in good health. I'm gonna do the same in my 94 E420. Mine is smoke silver...yours?

  99. Ivo Bg
    Ivo Bg
    2 dagen geleden

    I've wanted one for so damn long and its just getting more and more difficult to find one and they r getting more and more expensive...

  100. Svingarm
    Svingarm
    2 dagen geleden

    no no, a mercedes is an old wife car :) it's the worst junk to drive in